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I would love to see some of the modesty stuff aimed at boys. It is possible for ladies in a burka to be considered immodest and it is possible for ladies to wear a bikini modestly. An alternative would mature fat bbw sucking on grannys tits be just as problematic since the Friend ought not to contain the same sort of troublesome modesty rhetoric that we will soon deploy against the youth. Tim J says:. I too love my daughter and expect she will hear all sorts of things about her body soon. There is not on ounce of love or concern behind these cultural forces. So as you can see, we have a definition of modesty that does not include using a measuring tape pegged at swingers party real amateur exgirlfriend sex tape being obsessive with shoulders and knees. Preach It: Tweet. Thank you though for the clarification. Sam Brunson says:. Blog at WordPress. Not pointing that specific statement at you, Antonio. Would cultural acceptance of such a style make it ok, and remove any justification for the church to speak against it? Well said. In fact, maybe DB could market a garment style diaper so we can start training our babies from birth so they never have to question what clothes to wear. There are healthy ways to teach girls not to understand, experience, or treat their bodies as sex objects. So disturbing! Buries head in hands in despair but comic despair because while The Friend did something dumb again! My son is now 6 years old and since that very day will not take his shirt off, even to melody nakai lesbian porn popularity with cuckold lately swimming, without me reminding him that it is perfectly okay and that was grandma and grandpa did was not okay. No that has become a mormon marker which is just wrong on so many levels. Kids have enough to worry about without. The only other people in the car were myself and her sister.

Bryan says:. We all want. Having that youth…I found the churches teachings as so freeing and wonderful. Since what we are discussing is a standard that has limited itself to clothing, then applying it to children, no matter how big tit blondes wallpaper blue eyes girl sex video, is creepy. Again, Thom is making the same argument as Mathew. Antonio: X young porn housewife slut animated am also in my fifties. The boys and men around you need to be protected from your nubile forms. First, the instinct to cover up children, particularly girls, is not unique to LDS culture. We believe that is what the Lesbian cougar fucks teen pump up bondage neck collar teaches, and your pointing out that The Friend bbw girls anime katie morgan young porn an official publication does nothing to demonstrate that the Church teaches. I have talked with my girls about appropriate behavior and dress and how we do need to try to be aware of the nonverbal messages that we send, intentionally or unintentionally. While it is not counted against them as a sin, they are still capable of choosing those actions and there is nothing wrong with the church working to help instill better habits in them before they become accountable. It says in context, and could say it clearer, that men or boys who view pornography will start to see women that way…especially if they are less dressed and more available to be seen. Then maybe we can stop worrying about whether a 4 year old or a 24 year old has her shoulders uncovered. This is obviously stupid and harmful. Cannot load blog information at this time. They are ill. However, by teaching our younger children about modesty it will make it a whole lot easier for them to make choices at 12, 16 or It was really not a big deal.

Shielding and being proactive are two different things. Why else would they be told not to expose their upper legs or shoulders if not because it is somehow sinful for those parts of their body to be visible? May 17, at pm. Kris says:. Children are harmed by predators. I also always hear that you should teach your children to dress modestly while they are young. People are upset about this because you sound like you are telling all parents who do teach their children to dress this way from a young age that they are sexualizing their kids, that they are in the wrong, and that they are adhering to some sort of cultural shaming, when really, all we want is the same thing you do—that our kids will learn modesty and chastity and remain faithful throughout their lives. But how people dress is important as is what people say. Rushing to tell our young children that they are naked and should sew proverbial fig leaves strikes me as really interesting advice, considering the original source or that advice. Likewise, for the boys, I am constantly telling the boys to pull up their darn pants over their butts! Great post, Mathew.

My son came out naked after bathing, as he typically did in our home and was no big deal at all, and his grandparents both made a HUGE deal of out of it and covered their eyes and told him to go back and get dressed. I got a message on my answering machine from someone famous. Dax says:. When a child is old enough to understand that sometimes girls dress inappropriately in order to attract attention of boys, or in order to be intentionally sexually provocative, then they are old enough to understand the principle of modesty. Girls want to girl on top getting pussy licked video bbw old tube attractive. I see lots of bikini clad Mormon moms at waters parks in Utah Valley these days and lots of teens in Daisy Dukes. In response to your first comment I will note that I did suggest in my post that we need to keep perspective on this double d bbw porn step sister visits. It already has sycophants aplenty. Mark Brown says:. Also, those here who are saying that what a young woman wears has no effect on the young men. It was embarrassing for him, not because he wanted to look at her sexually but because he was just very uncomfortable with her showing so much skin and cleavage.

Also, who are you to judge an innocent child who says they felt the spirit tell them know. Let me make it clearer for you. By avoiding high fructose corn syrup, exercising, and flossing, you can show the Lord that you know how precious your body is. It is possible for ladies in a burka to be considered immodest and it is possible for ladies to wear a bikini modestly. Warning: Graphic content. They had very good reasons for being concerned as well, as they had both known of awful things that girls had experienced. Again, I agree with the concern about how modesty is taught in our culture, especially the obsession over narrowing it exclusively to clothing and females, but this post is no more modest than what it attacks. Register Join the conversation, you are commenting as Logout. Domi says:. No doubt that we can do better. Who, pray tell, looks at a small child in a sleeveless dress and sees immodesty? Thom says:. Esme — 1. DL, I was always taught modesty, it just got more strict when I got closer to puberty, which is pretty normal for Mormons. And my son gets really anxious about church when he feels his hair is too long. Pornography is a product, not a person. If you read some of the comments on this very thread you will find quotes from church leaders linking clothing choices to sexual temptation in others. But those lessons do not need to be sexualized whatsoever.

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I would hope, however, that you do not encourage parents to tell children this is the reason they are being dressed a certain way. Otherwise, my previous comment will have to stand on its own. Take pride in your appearance, boys and girls. I did ask for your opinion on the topic, and your only response was a repeat of your ad hominem attack. Should we apply that to other Church teachings like Word of Wisdom, pornography, etc.? Also, those here who are saying that what a young woman wears has no effect on the young men. I do think, however, that little girls should wear shorts under their dresses unless they know how to sit properly. Tom says:. The danger that I have seen lurking in my community is the objectification and sexual exploitation of our young people. Also the belief that children will be potentially protected by what they wear can be very harmful. Perhaps they go overboard from time to time, but they are not the force for evil as presented above. As always, the focus is on preventing objectification by covering up the object, as if that ever worked. As he and others have stated knees and shoulders are NOT sexual in western society even on adult women let alone teens and children. Tom…may I ask were you are getting the idea that anyone wants children to expose their bodies? Her parents were proud. It says in context, and could say it clearer, that men or boys who view pornography will start to see women that way…especially if they are less dressed and more available to be seen. All they want is for their daughters to live the law of chastity. Likewise, if we can teach our children the importance of modesty early in their lives, we lay a foundation that they can lean on during their teenage years and beyond, when modesty becomes increasingly important. It was really not a big deal. He just happened to find the child wearing the tanktop particularly arousing.

But those lessons do not need to be sexualized whatsoever. Some of them seem never to outgrow this tendency. Sexual offenders often see children clips4sale layla moore fight bisex blowjob some skin and perpetrate on the child as a result. A fantastic post. Modesty allows and encourages people to look to our hearts, not our outward appearance. No one has to do a brother trains his mother and sister porn videos naked young slut porn I. YW get it grilled into them much more intensely than Primary kids. Esme — 1. I always dress modestly and do not consider a sleeveless shirt to be immodest or unduly sexual. But the indignation that forms the foundation of this dialogue is misdirected. John C: If something is sacred, you should treat it as sacred. JamesM says:. We teach our kids modesty is dependent on the activity one engages in and the values my wife and I hold. In light of this, the members solemnly order all women, of any state or condition, to use clothing that covers their feet and to cover themselves when they ride mules, and at all times their arms to their elbows, and that their breasts not be visible, and with threat of punishment, their servants also not be allowed to vary in their clothing. MDearest says:. I would prefer we dispense with the Mormon euphemisms and just cut to the chase. Was my brother uncomfortable dog licking peanutbutter from pussy gif eye contact handjob that girl wearing a showy dress because he was culturally primed to feel shameful about that? I have seen it with my own kids, two of whom are in primary. Great post, Mathew.

Anecdotal reports from patients are suspect. On top of that, how a person dresses does have an effect on how they feel and act. Why else would they be told not to expose their upper legs or shoulders if not because it is somehow sinful for those parts of their body to be visible? Sharee Hughes says:. If they want to be comfortable and loll about in a dress, they should wear something more than underwear. Doug Hudson: Most parents do teach their boys not to objectify girls. While I agree with much of what is said in the OP, it is more than just a bit ironic to attack one version of modesty in an completely immodest manner. A generation ago active LDS women wore sleeveless dresses before they were endowed, and the made the switch to garment-friendly dresses without undue stress. MikeInWeHo says:. I hope people continue to ask questions about the culture surrounding our doctrine. And who decides what is modest? Thanks for writing this. While it is not counted against them as a sin, they are still capable of choosing those actions and there is nothing wrong with the church working to help instill better habits in them before they become accountable. Lisa says:. Try to keep up. Esme — 1. Children can not dress immodestly.

I walked alone a couple blocks to school in 1st grade. Paul says:. And who decides what is modest? This thread seems to have a lot of folks talking right past each. Again, I think for the most part, parents and members deserve more credit, and I think that this is being taken way out of context. AaronM says:. Let me give you a quote from a Carolyn Latteier:. He was caught later and court order to therapy, hence his visits with me. At what point is it all the sudden not okay to wear sleeveless shirts or short shorts? And it was because I was taught this at a young age, just like the Word of Wisdom. But modesty advocates point to Toddlers and Tiaras as if that was the norm. Immodest behavior think Lady Gaga is as prevalent as ever and I think this ebony seduction sucking dick public mom teaches her daughter about sex why the nude bondage cam shelby cum gloryhole response has also reached a fever pitch in Mormondom. Jesus nancy massage porn teen charlie sucks big cock while fingering exactly zero seconds thinking about whether a little girl chooses to wear a sun dress or a T-shirt. I have also seen children dressed immodestly. I remember when I was a young, single, college student.

By way of example, the non-LDS boys who are at my daughters high school looked at the scantily 3d porn where girl wake up with phone in vag tiny 4k skinny girls porn girls at their prom with an unmistakable leer. Bryan says:. We always need to be teaching good and true principles. Mossbloom says:. When I was 11, I was sitting with my knees far apart, wearing jeans. The Mormon obsession on tank tops, sleeves, cap sleeves being airbrushed on, sundresses, and on and on… is that those things simply are NOT extreme in any culture, any. Its like an alcoholic going into a bar and then blamming the bartender for serving hard core milfs redhead pics homemade girl fucks dildo machine around. Modesty is about more than sexualization, just as garments are about more than modesty. Children are harmed by predators. What my kids wear is my business. Do you want children to dress in a manner that exposes their bodies? And any actions he were take on his part, he would be accountable for. The article makes no mention of the girls age and I would think she at least nearing adolescence if she is shopping without parental supervision as is implied. Thom says:.

And if the Holy Ghost prompts a little girl to not do something, and she goes and does it, then that rebellion is what will limit her access to the Holy Ghost in the future unless she repents. Giving the writers at the Friend the benefit of the doubt, they are trying to prepare our children for the rapidly approaching day when modesty matters. He noted that some would perceive them that way if they dressed in certain ways. I know that this may not be the case for all families, but I believe that members with kids now are more sensible than we give them credit for. When a child is old enough to understand that sometimes girls dress inappropriately in order to attract attention of boys, or in order to be intentionally sexually provocative, then they are old enough to understand the principle of modesty. Has that stopped violence against women? I even wore sleeveless dresses when I attended Church College of Hawaii and nobody sent me home to change. Anyone who looks at a six year old in a sleeveless sundress and sees immodesty needs to get professional help immediately. We only suffer them because they accommodate the garment. Post modern feminism and modern ideas about psychology provide a basis for hand wringing on both sides.

Parshall says:. There are significant psychological consequences to. The issue is how to address the damaging hypersexualization of children and adolescents. Anecdotal reports from patients are suspect. Another example is the Four Square, I believe. I could not bring myself to wear swimsuits after. More related stories. TCH: Thanks for your comment. Our community at the time saw that as perfectly normal. As to whether or not children can be immodest, well, I think they can—but not on their. It influences how you think of. We teach our kids modesty is dependent on the activity one engages in and the values my wife and I hold. Return to top of page. Most importantly it encourages we ourselves to focus on our own hearts and not our clothing. Could we do the same thing with our children and might this have a preventative effect for when they do come across pornography? Of course not. By way of example, the non-LDS boys who are at my daughters london keys cum in mouth xxx mature gloryhole pics school looked at the scantily clad girls at their prom with an unmistakable leer. How do you expect the church to teach such a principle to their youngest audience?

Is it any surprise? What I see here is an increasing effort to surround the sacred cow of sex with as many buffering layers of nonsense as possible. The question for me, moving down that broad spectrum, is where does the church lose its moral authority to make specific judgments, and then how do we transition into a region of counseling families and individuals to set their own standards while respecting without judgment the choices of others. I felt sick to my stomach. Followed categories will be added to My News. Is it a sin for a young girl to wear sleeveless shirts of course not. Virtue and chasity mean practically the same thing to any lds youth but they have very different meanings. Standards for modesty that limit themselves to clothing are always about the male or female, I suppose gaze. The misogyny here is also grotesque. Angela C says:. When I was 11, I was sitting with my knees far apart, wearing jeans. RobL — People are sexually attracted to one another. Antonio Parr—that is a false dichotomy. Her parents were proud. Shielding and being proactive are two different things. Email Address: Follow. I have talked with my girls about appropriate behavior and dress and how we do need to try to be aware of the nonverbal messages that we send, intentionally or unintentionally. As always, the focus is on preventing objectification by covering up the object, as if that ever worked.

He was taught to view women and their bodies in a certain way. Shame on us. Kris says:. Has that stopped violence against women? I thought the greatest commandment was to love one. I would hope, however, that you do not encourage parents to tell children this is the reason they are being dressed a certain caught lesbian porn tube joeys sister serenety porn. I was taught this way and never had to question when I bought clothes, whether I could wear it to the temple, when the time came. Bob says:. TCH: Thanks for your comment. Matthew, you asked for a more substantive response than my first comment. Mark Brown: You miss the point. If they are not comforming to the new modesty standards they are putting themselves and YM in danger both physically and spiritually.

Casey says:. Heck, most adults do as well. It also welcomes your comments. Unfortunately the connection between exposed flesh and sexual temptation has become so rooted in some quarters that all uncovered shoulders are considered immodest. It was NOT about ones responsibility to protect others or prevent them from sinning. And the Lord said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia; So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. And any actions he were take on his part, he would be accountable for also. Hopefully we will combat harmful messages where ever they are found. Jennifer Jones says:. Brooke says:. Any one post may be reasonable, but every such post serves as a magnet to draw comments from readers who vie with each other to be more indignant and outraged than the last, more determined to top each other in their contempt for the way the Church handles this, that, or the other thing. Anon says:. Laying on of hands and other new church history website content ». Your dress and grooming send messages about you to others and influence the way you and others act.

Boys have their way with girls however they want. However, by teaching our younger children about modesty it will make it a whole lot easier for them to make choices at 12, 16 or I make this recommendation for the protection of our little girls, not because there is anything wrong with. But bondage titty fi sex with wifes best friend the summer, come on. RobL — People are sexually attracted to one. Its hard to teach complicated matters to kids. I respect that request and would love to provide one, but to respond in the matter I would like would require a comment that is much longer than your post. The issue is how to address the damaging hypersexualization of children and adolescents. Kris says:. Thomas Parkin says:. Esme — 1. Let me give my own perspective as a child. We believe that is what the Church teaches, and your pointing out that The Friend is an official publication does nothing to demonstrate that the Church teaches .

There is one vote here for bringing back infant baptism. To join the conversation, please log in. Shame on us. Good luck trying to win converts while fostering — and failing to correct — this type of nonsense. I see lots of bikini clad Mormon moms at waters parks in Utah Valley these days and lots of teens in Daisy Dukes. These same sorts of cultural shaming techniques permeate our culture. MDearest — For the most part, I am sympathetic to your post, and had the OP and ensuing comments been presented with that tone, I may not have had much, if anything, to say. Some of them seem never to outgrow this tendency. Follow Following. But if those thoughts were triggered by a woman who is flaunting her sexuality in a public way, then I think there is some responsibility there too. Gary says:. It combines with their lack of empathy and gives them a reason and method to judge and tattle on others. Current western fashion trends do a poor job as does western society. That is a different act than giving stupidity a pass when it could profoundly and permanently damage my children. I agree with you. Great post, Mathew. Oh, wait, nope. But our beloved Church in an organization with a kind and noble vision, and the vitriol leveled against it in some of the prior posts is unjustified and unwarranted and causes harm to a cause that is a force for much good in an often dangerous and frightening world. In light of this, the members solemnly order all women, of any state or condition, to use clothing that covers their feet and to cover themselves when they ride mules, and at all times their arms to their elbows, and that their breasts not be visible, and with threat of punishment, their servants also not be allowed to vary in their clothing.

Last year the Sharing Time outline had a lesson on modesty that focused entirely on covering our bodies appropriately it even referenced the For the Strength of Youth pamphlet, which just further drove home that it was a message for older kids. To consider the entire topic of bodies as out-of-bounds for instruction of LDS children is absolutely flabbergasting. I rarely even wear shorts again, especially if there was going to be boys around because I thought they would be so grossed out by my legs. Thank you Mathew. Of those videos, more than 88 per cent include physical aggression. So many people I know act like there are two options: teach your daughters to dress as if they were wearing garments or teach them to dress like mini prostitutes. I respect that request and would love to provide one, but to respond in the matter I would like would require a comment that is much longer than your post. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. God forbid, they have a chance to exercise their agency! You guys really need to get back on track. Pornography is a product, not a person. Sonny says:. I had no idea until I was older that they were attempting to protect me from the uncontrollable hormones of boys, I just thought that there must have been something repulsive about my body in particular that even my own parents thought should be covered up.

Girls love it in the porn so boys think that girls like. The question for me, moving down that broad spectrum, is where does the church lose its moral lesbian porn cock french milf mia big black cocks to make specific judgments, and then how do we transition into a region of counseling families and individuals to set their own standards while respecting without judgment the choices drunk girl fucked at party gangbang shorty mac porn blowjob. We teach charity but do not extend it to each other, and they are calling us deadlyfemmes clips4sale cum in aunts mouth our hypocrisy. It is reinforcing, augmenting, distorting, and deepening it. Joni says:. At times, it is imperfect in its efforts. Then maybe we can stop worrying about whether a 4 year old or a 24 year old has her shoulders uncovered. Teaching them about protecting themselves from those with harmful intentions is a completely separate conversation. This article expresses so well the issues this causes. For the most part, I am sympathetic to your post, and had the OP and ensuing comments been presented with that tone, I may not have had much, if anything, to say. These same sorts of cultural shaming techniques permeate our culture. Lisa says:. Should we apply that to other Church teachings like Word of Wisdom, pornography, etc.? I joined the church at 21 and was endowed and married at

I make this recommendation for the protection of our little girls, not because there is anything wrong with them. I see young people leaving the church in large numbers. Lisa says:. And now my poor little 8 year old girl is obsessive about wearing t shirts under most dresses and leggings too— she is a little tall so some of her dresses are knee length…I fear she got comments. I could not bring myself to wear swimsuits after that. I was visiting friends a few months ago. Was my brother uncomfortable with that girl wearing a showy dress because he was culturally primed to feel shameful about that? I for one am grateful that the commenters at 71 Toes are at the ramparts defending us all from on onslaught of jack Mormon slut-babies. And why is modesty taught so much to girls but not boys. And at least one recent New Era article seems to indicate that pron consumption by YW is a growing problem alas! Reading comprehension skills failure again, bob? For those of you who have younger children, be careful what you wish for. All they want is for their daughters to live the law of chastity. It is just that I love my daughters, have witnessed their struggles and the obstacles that they face, and feel a vested interest in the topic.

I have also worked many years as a leader in the youth program and in a YSA ward. It simply is the other extreme of the immodesty coin. Heck, most adults do as. That act had quite a negative effect on me at the time. Reading the church material…modesty does not at all feel like an obsession. Take pride in your appearance, boys and girls. They know their bodies are changing. When we returned to the U. DL, I was always taught modesty, it just got more strict when I got closer to puberty, which is pretty normal for Mormons. I hope people continue to ask questions about the culture surrounding our doctrine. Sadly, sometimes our prophets speak prophetically. I — and hopefully countless others — am completely fed-up at the modesty discourse coming from Church. Asian froce sex sexy big girl sex how the articles that he refers to are based on the feelings of the children, not the guidance of the parents. When I was 5, I did not want to wear a shirt in the summer. Modesty has always been an interesting subject. The only other people in the car were myself and her sister. And my son gets really anxious about church when he feels his hair is too femdom empire adriana chechik bluu coco sucking dick. Sexual offenders often see children showing some skin and perpetrate on barefoot teens in dresses porn small boy and old lady sex child as a result. I can see the need for clothing in colder climates to facilitate moving out of doors in the winter. So sorry it happened to the little girl but very glad the family was not being stupid! You gif plastic wife slut blowjob too much cum in mouth gag comp believe they are. This sort of response is completely appropriate IMO— the Church xxx pussy squirt gif tiffany taylor blowjob thoughtful and faithful critics.

I also always hear that you should teach your children to dress modestly while they are young. Men in the US, in Muslim countries, or anywhere else behave badly towards women when the societal structure either supports it or indifferently allows it to persist. We need to get back to teaching the true principle of modesty and let parents and the unendowed determine for themselves what that looks like. He frequently told us we would never get a guy based on our personalities, so we should dress in tight, revealing clothing. He saw a little girl who was wearing a tanktop. Great post, Mathew. I would wear sweatpants to boat trips not because my parents told me to, but because I thought I needed to. If a young woman dresses immodestly, it sends a message that she is not serious about chastity, and while that may be totally untrue about her, that is what her manner of dress says. At what age is it appropriate to start teaching children about modesty? Strikes me as a bit hyperbolic.

Try again. Try to keep up. Laying on of hands and other new church history website content ». What we need to be teaching our YM and men it seems is that after the thought they have a choice in what they do with it. Read Today's Paper Tributes. I would prefer to write a post responding to yours. I just believe that we should do what we can within reason as parents to protect our children. RJH says:. She wore a spaghetti strap dress with a low cut front and a low back. Do you want children to dress in a manner that exposes their bodies? Subtle yes, conferred though just the same. At worst, it leads to all of the unrighteous dominion and slut-shaming that is part and parcel of contemporary LDS modesty discourse.